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Despite speculation to the contrary, Springbok coach Peter de Villiers will retain his job but faces at grilling at a SARU review later this month.
Rumours have been rife that De Villiers was facing the axe after the Springboks lost five of their six Tri-Nations matches this year and the coach continued to make headlines with outrageous statements in the press.
"All rugby followers are extremely disappointed with results in the Tri-Nations, as are the Springbok team and management, of course," SARU president Oregan Hoskins said in a statement on Sunday.
"We take the situation very seriously but there is a process in place and we will follow that through."
Hoskins added that the Springboks' poor Tri-Nations performance would be subject to an annual review "as per normal."
De Villiers has been the centre of controversy yet again over the past week after he commented that the Springboks fully supported Bees Roux, the Blue Bulls prop accused last week of murdering a policeman.
Hoskins said that there would be formal discussions with the coach about some of his reported comments. He added that he had written to the family of policeman Johannes Mogale to express the Union's support and condolences.
Comments
nickwaiheke says...
it does show how much Carter does other than just great kicking when was the last time the AB backs didn't score a try?
Posted 17:46 26th September 2010
robo says...
BoDiddly, Your comments are thoroughly dimwitted and ignorant. Evidently you haven't been noting comments about Peter de Villiers that have continued for weeks. Long before the last Wallaby game in Bloemfontein I, like many others, was calling for P Divvy's resignation or firing, so please end your mindless drivellings about us being fickle.
Posted 05:35 07th September 2010
mosel says...
The problem with Bo Diddly and the like is they have no concept of the damage political interference has on a game as is happening with the Boks . One only has to cast one's mind back a few years - Zimbabwe had a very creditable test side in cricket even beating major sides on occasion , nowadays they don't even play test cricket the game having been destroyed by Mugabe and co with the political problems they created . There are parallels in SA at this moment - so gloat as much as you like BoDiddly and the like , the world game would be poorer with the loss of SA as a rugby power . To boycott SA until they take racism out of the sport would be doing them a favour as it did so many years ago .
Posted 15:39 06th September 2010
safehands says...
@BoDiddly........I think that your comments about saffas a trifle unfair with regards fickleness......I seem to remember many an AB supporter bleating about the ineptitude of the current coaching staff in 2009.......one year on and they (the coaching staff) are back to being the best thing since sliced bread.
I'm a huge AB fan, and I was bitterly disappointed last year with the AB's performances, but sport has always and will always go in cycles.....sometimes the players are not up to it and sometimes (as in SA's case now) the coaches simply are not good enough.
I don't think, if you are honest, you can deny the depth of talent SA has, and if channelled correctly they will be back to their competitive best if coached properly of course.
However, I also don't share many a saffas belief that they would win the 2011 RWC just by turning up even if White, Mallet or AN Other were in charge, but I do think that they would be a better unit without PDV and his nonsensical coaching decisions.
@stormboy......As for the SA teams dominating at S14 level, that is true, but the fact that the Bulls and Stormers provide the bulk of the Bok squad and the Australasian teams have their internationals spread more evenly across the board, logic would suggest that these 2 SA teams would dominate. But international rugby allows for a country to call upon the lands best and hence the S14 counts for very little in the international arena when the best of NZ and Aus is pitted against SA because the playing field is levelled.
While there is much talent in SA, there is also vast talent in NZ and Aus too, and personally I think the talent in these 2 nations are just a step ahead of SA at the moment.
Posted 14:13 06th September 2010
tribeg says...
Bo Diddly - you have just proven my point. Every non Saffer will be doing all in their power (yes you Bo Diddly) to make sure PDV stays. As long as PDV is their the best team will not be chosen, and when it is the game plan will be AWOL.
Posted 12:45 06th September 2010
abrad says...
@BoDiddly
You can insult South Africans all you want...the fact remains, this coach was not chosen on merit only. That much has been affirmed by SA rugby boss who hired him.
Other coaches in SA have been sacked for much less (but I do think Straeuli was our lowest coaching point in living memory).
the coach (the collective staffing under his leadership) seem blinded by ego and ideology, his player selections are questionable, leaving better players at club and it is patently evident that he simply does not bring strategic proweness, analysis and instruction to the team as his peers in Australia and new Zeeland clearly are doing.
Posted 10:28 06th September 2010
bokpiel says...
@ Bo Diddly, i dont get what you are saying, maybe its your sarcasim but you made the point all us 'fickle' SAs are saying. the coach selects the players and coaches them, if they loose its the players fault not the coach'?. Now to put it simply, we need a coach that can select the correct players who are not past their sell by date and coach them; it is not the players role. Please explain how we bring in the new tallent that we see in the curry cup a S14? - a coach we dont understand or appreciate? get real man we understand that he is a political appointment and appreciate that he cannot coach.
Posted 10:04 06th September 2010
Siwi says...
Saffas I feel for your situation. Can I say one thing on a positive note, no sorry the clown is still the clown and his support poodles are still poodles. I have written on this site that as much as i admire VM I felt he was on the way out, burnt out. He played a great role on the weekend. He is just knackered. OK one bad lineout call. But I hope he stays on and I hope he becomes your captain, just give him a rest, in fact give at least six of them a rest. Send a second string to Europe. Burn your old fellas out even more and you will not be able to rely on them for the WC. You do have some good players, not as good as some left out of the side, but there is quality there. I truely beleive the issue is in the dynamics of the group of which the coaches are part of and that the coaches are squeezing the heart out of the team. I am sure the team have no faith in the coaching staff. Good luck in Europe
Posted 08:40 06th September 2010
stormboy says...
@ Kawasakifreak. The changes in law interpretations have not been a factor to most SA teams. We dominated the S14 by embracing them. At Bok level however the message appears to have been lost.
Posted 08:05 06th September 2010
stormboy says...
Unfortunately PdV appears to have the same lack of accountability that the Government seem to believe they have. It is not defeat that concerns us Bok fans the most, although we don't like it. It is the fact that after 3 years the coach has offered nothing new. An inherited team and gameplan worked while the team was in form and the interpretations of the law suited. Now we have new interpretations, key players out of form or clearly past it and a coaching staff ( not just PdV) who have just dig their heads in the sand and say everything is fine. we'll just keep on hammering that square peg until the round hole changes shape.
PdV is staying because the people who put him there are just as inept.
Posted 07:51 06th September 2010
BoDiddly says...
How fickle you Saffers are. Had Beale missed the kick you'd have been celebrating instead of whingeing, it was that close. So now you all jump on that huge bandwagon blaming PDV for everything under the sun. Yes he has a dreadful record, all he's ever done as SA coach is win a lions series and the tri-nations which, for all you who like to gloss over it included 3 straight wins over the best team in the world. Pretty dreadful CV huh? You should take a little look at the players out there who just aren't good enough at this level any more and the fact that you have very few coming through who are. Without Brussouw who is your best forward by a distance, you have no one capable of competing at the breakdown which is why Pocock turned you over like a man amongst boys and despite the fact that lots of your 'wonderful' players fell off tackles (PDV cant make those tackles for them) Pocock was the difference. You can have as many 'big and dull' forwards as you like, Burger, Spies, Rossouw, Van Der Meer but until you get Brussouw back or someone equally as intelligent, then you're always going to be second best at the breakdown and that is where the majority of matches are won and lost.
You can mindlessly follow the idiotic campaign to get rid of a coach you neither understand nor appreciate, like the simpletons you are until the cows come home but unless you take a reality check and recognise the fact that a number of your players are either over the hill of out of their depth then you'll have a rather large shock when a new coach fails to make a significant difference.
Posted 07:33 06th September 2010
countryboy says...
PDV was always going to keep his job. It was merely just wishful thinking and a media campaign by Keo and some others to try and bring him down.
And of course they failed, because isn't PDV the best coach in the world? A gift from God? Isn't it true that nobody will be able to score against the Boks if they execute their structures perfectly? The man is untouchable.
I'm a lifelong, die-hard Sprinbok fan, but with PDV at the helm, the give-a-**** factor is unfortunately extremely low.
Though, here's a question? Is he any worse than Straeuli was? Hmm......
Posted 06:33 06th September 2010
bloemboy says...
My little cry in the dark is to mount a 1 man protest. I will not watch or attend another Bok game until South Africa pick the best person for the job. It has been 20 years since apartheid was dismantled and yet we still have to put the pride of a nation on the back burner. What are we building that we will be proud of then?
Soon we will be forced to select players that were not even born in the apartheid years, because they were previously disadvantaged.
A national team is not the place to develop talent at a Player or Coaching level. It is impossible to see any other reason why PdV is retained because his record is abominable.
Sadly then, this is Bloemboy signing off for the forseeable future.
Posted 05:47 06th September 2010
Dian says...
Well done Bakkies, keep up the good work! Rugby is rugby guys....
Dian Botha
Posted 05:33 06th September 2010
tribeg says...
PDV and Hokins must go. Unfortunately the Boks lack strong leadership. The rest of the rugby world will be hoping, and dare I say it, praying, nothing changes. That way they have a chance at the world cup.
Posted 03:35 06th September 2010
Kawasakifreak says...
I feel sorry for SA rugby supporters - it appears the rule changes, poor preparation & leadership off the pitch have contributed to an alarming fall from grace for the Springboks in only 12 months - & I thought only England could be so inconsistent !
If political interference in SA rugby is partly to blame then surely continuing poor results will force a rethink or compromise ?
Posted 22:52 05th September 2010
robo says...
pete4monc, it's not that "the rest of the world is too blind to see that it is apartheid in reverse," most don't know, let alone care, and those who once earned fame - and fat incomes - from opposing apartheid, don't care. They've had their moment of glory. Most folk overseas don't know about the crime, corruption, and new racial discrimination, and no longer are there activists out there stirring the pot and making them aware. It's not a Brave New World out there, it's a really dumb new world that operates in a fog. Imagine if the New Zealand and Australian rugby administrators threatened a sport boycott unless visiting South African teams were selected on merit and race played no role.
Posted 22:18 05th September 2010
robo says...
Peter de Villiers keeping his job after the shambles for which he is responsible, is nothing short of a disgrace. What a dismal reflection on SARU and Oregan Hoskins! If they possessed an ounce of naus or sensitivity, for their inaction over De Villiers they'd shrivel up in shame, but they don't and neither do they possess an ounce of moral fibre, so to them it's all like water off a duck's back.
And yes, most of us know it, were De Villiers white he'd be gone, but now a new racist regime exists and in some respects it isn't all that different to the old one. Merit comes second, maybe third, and as long as this pitiful state endures Boks rugby will whither. We have the players, the Super 14 competition showed that, but we don't have the administrative leadership and we certainly don't have the right coach. Until De Villiers goes, so does my passionate interest that stretches over decades. If he stays the end of years tour will be of passing interest only. I've had my fill of watching ineptitude endure - and on a basis of race! So much for putting the ghosts of apartheid to rest!
As to John Smit encouraging his team-mates to look in the mirror, rather he comes out straight and admits that poor coach and with that poor preparation and no decent game plan set the Boks up for defeat. It's evident that 'spirit' has suffered, and yet, who should be surprised? With all that occurs in the country, political interference in sport, quota players, and the pathetic performance of this coach, I've long marvelled that the Boks managed to do as well as they did - till this Tri-Nations debacle. And now the architect of defeat is to stay! Nothing he does is bad enough! Is this really
'normal'?
Posted 21:38 05th September 2010
pete4monc says...
PDV must go ???......Never !! .. Because of the politics in sport in South Africa ( affirmative action ) he will be there to the end.... The rest of the world is too blind to see that it is apartheid in reverse.
Posted 21:25 05th September 2010
abrad says...
@zambokke
I appreciate your last gasp faith in our WC prospects...but from experience all Saffas should know by now that Affirmative Action appointees are immune from performance related dismissal. I will not say PdV has quite the same priveleges, but he will outlast many further embarrasments.
Mallett got sacked for saying SARU charges too much for ticket prices.
We all know what happened to White - where in the world does a WC winning coach get sacked (technically he did not re-apply for his job which was advertised and applications closed during WC campaign). He never had the freedom to pick the team as PdV has.
PdV may even outlast the WC squad I am afraid...it is a skin colour thing in the republic. Horrible to say, but profoundly true.
Posted 19:05 05th September 2010